1960 (SG) Les Paul special prototype!

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Wow, that is truly an incredible find! I will have to add this to the SG wiki for sure!

For more pics, check Well Strung Guitars' website: https://wellstrungguitars.com/guitar/sg-special-prototype-cherry/

Usually when you see a "prototype", it's complete bullsh*t. This is not.

The serial puts this way ahead of the earliest SGs I've been able to find. The earliest I could find with a serial pic was 0 8765. This Special has the serial 0 10XX. I think they're right that the slab body was a budget compromise because the Standard pictured in the '61/62 catalog appears to be an even earlier prototype but that does have beveling. No visible serial though, so hard to say.

It's especially surprising because the Special and Junior kept the old LP body style the longest, being produced with the old body into early 1961.
 
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That special looks like it has serial number 010xxx not 0 10xx . That 6 digit serial number places well after the 08000 series. So it is not a protoype to any of the sculptured Les Paul new standards .
 

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That special looks like it has serial number 010xxx not 0 10xx . That 6 digit serial number places well after the 08000 series. So it is not a protoype to any of the sculptured Les Paul new standards .

That's not how the serial numbers worked back then. They started at 100, and added digits as necessary. In that case, it would be five digits, starting with a 1. See this '61 Standard with a five digit serial:


Here's an even earlier 1961 with a four-digit serial number:


They didn't start using six digits until 1967 and this sure as heck ain't a '67.

If it weren't a prototype, what would it be?
 

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I am talking about 1960 not 1961
6 digits were and are real numbers for the 1960 models
Check the serial number on the prototype it has no space after the 0.
here are some examples of Les Pauls SGs from 1960
011186, 011189, 011190, 011485.

The special protoype was produced late in 1960 well after the sculptured LP SGS were in production.



Here is a special with serial number 012202. Note that there is no space after the zero. 1960_Gibson_LesPaulJr-6_1944x.jpg

here is one in the same range as the prototype 010838

1960-Gibson-Les-Paul-Standard-Sunburst-010838-4-2048x1366.jpg
 

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I am talking about 1960 not 1961
6 digits were and are real numbers for the 1960 models
Check the serial number on the prototype it has no space after the 0.
here are some examples of Les Pauls SGs from 1960
011186, 011189, 011190, 011485.

The special protoype was produced late in 1960 well after the sculptured LP SGS were in production.



Here is a special with serial number 012202. Note that there is no space after the zero. View attachment 51370

here is one in the same range as the prototype 010838

View attachment 51372

I see. But unlike the Standard and Custom, the Special and Junior did not switch to the SG body style until after 1961, as there are 1961 dated examples with the old Les Paul body. So it still tracks with the idea that they were working out how the cheaper student models would transition in later 1960.
 

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Yes I think that was indeed the case in that the idea was how to make the special not quite as high level as the sculptured standard but still get a modern thinner double cutaway. Yes... a working it out model.
 


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