Local 1972 SG Standard

[DBCooper]

Local Shop has this guitar in. 1972 with soft shell case. Serial # 779229 asking 4k. Two questions:

1. I offered 3k and they said no. Am i crazy to offer more?

2. Was this guitar made in Kalamazoo, MI?

Thank you!

 

[Decadent Dan]

Their Reverb listing says the frets are low but playable. It’s been up 18 days with no offers.
It will cost them more to sell it online so
their bottom dollar for a local sale might be around $3600. Now subtract a fret job and a real case and you’re back to $3k.

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[DBCooper]

Their Reverb listing says the frets are low but playable. It’s been up 18 days with no offers.
It will cost them more to sell it online so
their bottom dollar for a local sale might be around $3600. Now subtract a fret job and a real case and you’re back to $3k.

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Not the OG case?

 

[Decadent Dan]

Not the OG case?

Ooops, that one has a case, I confused it with a different one.
Did you play it?

 

[Decadent Dan]

It probably has the low Norlin era train track frets. It’s a love or hate thing with those.

 

[cerebral gasket]

$1500 max.
It’s just an old guitar.

 

[Chuteboxehero]

View attachment 50334 Local Shop has this guitar in. 1972 with soft shell case. Serial # 779229 asking 4k. Two questions:

1. I offered 3k and they said no. Am i crazy to offer more?

2. Was this guitar made in Kalamazoo, MI?

Thank you!

3k is more than 2x what I paid for my '74 Standard that is in really nice shape. Still cherry red and no breaks. Also original case. Granted this was before COVID but not by much. And that was full asking price at the local GC. No lowballing original owners. It's a great guitar but not a $3k or $4k guitar. Strictly in my own opinion of course. There are plenty out there still.

 

[Norton]

if you have $3k to spend on an SG. get yourself a custom shop lp or 61 reissue, better everything,

but if you've got a thing for those early 70's anomalies, then find out what it would take.

I'd go with the reissue, and never even look back at that price.

 

[Stella]

1. I offered 3k and they said no. Am i crazy to offer more?

3K is a very fair offer for that guitar. When you played it, were you blown away, and did you think that you had to have this one? If so, then only you can determine its value. But if you’re just looking for an older Gibson, 4K is very high for a 1972 Standard imo.

2. Was this guitar made in Kalamazoo, MI?

Yes

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Well, I know I can't or shouldn't tell anyone what to like, or what to spend xxxx amount of money on, but I happened upon a couple years newer SG STD in Cream White that is super nice, had a complete set of EMG pickups installed along with all the pots and wiring for the active circuitry. The OEM Tarback pickups, POTS, Wiring, switch and jack were also included in the EMG boxes. I was able to swap things back to original and kept the EMG's... All this for under 2k. with the Original case. Also got the '79 LP Std for far less than the asking price of that SG you posted. In addition, a few years back, I checked out a 60's SG Jr at a local Guitar Center that they were selling for about 2k. Just to compare apples to apples with this 72 SG's price vs that true vintage instrument. The GC one DID have those super flat and low frets. I could only imagine what a refret job costs.

 

[DaveSG]

3k is more than 2x what I paid for my '74 Standard that is in really nice shape. Still cherry red and no breaks. Also original case. Granted this was before COVID but not by much. And that was full asking price at the local GC. No lowballing original owners. It's a great guitar but not a $3k or $4k guitar. Strictly in my own opinion of course. There are plenty out there still.

I concur. You could get SO many nice guitars between what they are asking and what you are offering. I get the whole insane price thing with vintage 50s LPs, but I've heard plenty of modern SGs that sound as good or better than vintage SGs...it is a pretty level playing field, which in turn doesn't justify some of the prices I'm seeing on these guitars. A lot of people look at these 70s SGs as red-headed stepchildren, even though I like them. They are not particularly highly favored, and some of the higher prices you are seeing on these might be because people have been priced out of the 60s models, and this is the next best thing for a vintage SG. Might be a good idea to let the market cool and little and keep your eyes open for the deals.

 

[PermissionToLand]

Norlin sellers are pants-on-head insane these days. Just trying to cash in on "vintage" nostalgia. I'm not knocking Norlins, they can be great guitars, but there's no reason to pay more than what a new SG costs, IMO. Especially when 90% of them have no frets left and the sellers try to pass them off as fretless wonders.

THIS IS YOUR DAILY REMINDER THAT ONLY SG CUSTOMS WERE FRETLESS WONDERS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST WORN OUT.

 

[Amptech]

If I may chime in, I think the " value " might be impacted by the pickups. Didn't 1972 have the Gibson embossed covers? Are they even original, if so are they early 72' patent numbers? or later 72' tarbacks? Just thinking..

 

[PermissionToLand]

If I may chime in, I think the " value " might be impacted by the pickups. Didn't 1972 have the Gibson embossed covers? Are they even original, if so are they early 72' patent numbers? or later 72' tarbacks? Just thinking..

The only way to know is removing the pickups, because I've seen Tarbacks with embossed covers. Gibson just used whatever parts they had in stock to keep the line moving. Being a late '72 or early '73 model, this most likely has Tarbacks.

 

[Robert Lazich]

I prefer the tarbacks to the 57's.....

 

[njpaulc]

$3,000. is top of market for that guitar with a hard case. Unless you love that era (tempted to spell it error) guitar I'd keep shopping.

 

[beatbyrd]

Hi, I have been a registered member of this forum for about 15 minutes. I only found out it existed from a 'sister' link from Gretsch-talk. I also signed up for their site this morning. The two guitar forums I have been long subscribed to (15 years+) are RickResource.com and the old GretschPages.com. The Gretsch site is gone and the Rick site has had fairly low traffic for the recent years. Obviously, I have no credibility here.

Having said all that, I have a 1973 SG standard walnut with the original rectangular hard case that I bought from the original buyer. I bought the guitar in 1974. It had strange heat related damage to the original pickguard. It looked like someone had tried to write something onto the pickguard with a soldering iron. I didn't ask the seller. I just recall that it played like butter and the price was fair. I bought a Gibson replacement pickguard a month later and put that one. There is still some mild heat warpage on the neck pickup ring, but I didn't ever replace it.

I am getting older now and need to downsize my herd. I don't expect to sell it here, but would like advice as to where best to sell and how to price it fairly. I don't want to be the old guy selling the barn find cherry Harley for 3oo bucks.

I have owned it for its whole life minus one year. I am a bass player and I have never gigged the SG. It has been mostly a case queen. I have used it for in-home recording only. With the exception of the pickguard, both the guitar and case are in original condition. No fret jobs, little if any fret wear, and no breaks or repairs. Any wear or dings would have probably been from the original owner. I can provide pictures if needed to help value it.

Thanks for any help you might provide. Tom

 

[PermissionToLand]

Hi, I have been a registered member of this forum for about 15 minutes. I only found out it existed from a 'sister' link from Gretsch-talk. I also signed up for their site this morning. The two guitar forums I have been long subscribed to (15 years+) are RickResource.com and the old GretschPages.com. The Gretsch site is gone and the Rick site has had fairly low traffic for the recent years. Obviously, I have no credibility here.

Having said all that, I have a 1973 SG standard walnut with the original rectangular hard case that I bought from the original buyer. I bought the guitar in 1974. It had strange heat related damage to the original pickguard. It looked like someone had tried to write something onto the pickguard with a soldering iron. I didn't ask the seller. I just recall that it played like butter and the price was fair. I bought a Gibson replacement pickguard a month later and put that one. There is still some mild heat warpage on the neck pickup ring, but I didn't ever replace it.

I am getting older now and need to downsize my herd. I don't expect to sell it here, but would like advice as to where best to sell and how to price it fairly. I don't want to be the old guy selling the barn find cherry Harley for 3oo bucks.

I have owned it for its whole life minus one year. I am a bass player and I have never gigged the SG. It has been mostly a case queen. I have used it for in-home recording only. With the exception of the pickguard, both the guitar and case are in original condition. No fret jobs, little if any fret wear, and no breaks or repairs. Any wear or dings would have probably been from the original owner. I can provide pictures if needed to help value it.

Thanks for any help you might provide. Tom

Personally, I'd value a mint '73 Standard around $1,900 or so. I'd try to sell it locally on consignment to avoid resellers trying to flip it for a profit instead of someone who genuinely wants it getting it for a fair price. Reverb and Ebay are scoured by resellers these days.

 

[Decadent Dan]

Personally, I'd value a mint '73 Standard around $1,900 or so. I'd try to sell it locally on consignment to avoid resellers trying to flip it for a profit instead of someone who genuinely wants it getting it for a fair price. Reverb and Ebay are scoured by resellers these days.

I remember the early days of eBay… there were a bunch of vintage gear sellers named “gcrep” followed by a different series of numbers. Like gcrep243 or gcrep146 etc. They would list vintage gear at 2-3 times the normal price. Looking back, I’m pretty sure “gcrep” was Guitar Center Rep. followed by the store number. The gear they were selling was probably trade-ins.

 

[edselman]

I don’t think that you all have been following the market. I routinely watch ‘70s era SGs on Reverb and they are actually selling for much more than the prices you are stating.