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My SG Standard P90 vs Les Paul Studio 490r/498T

heresiarh

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The only amp I have is the Blackstar HT-1 and hoping to pick up a VOX AC15 in the next few weeks. The HT-1 is excellent for home use. Great clean and crunch sound. I absolutely never use the overdrive channel and control the max gain with the guitar volume knob.

I generally prefer playing my SG (obviously) over my other guitars but lately I've been doing a tonal range comparison between the two. The Les Paul has that full fat sound and decent amount of sustain. Its great for bluesy stuff and the clean sound is bassy. I was able to hold a note for about 7 seconds on the 12th fret D string. I mean there are no ifs and buts about it, the guitar just sounds great and well rounded through the HT-1. After all, its a Les Paul.

Now, as soon as I plug in my SG and drop tune to D, it turns into a ferocious beast. The good old british crunch is so alive and filled with endless amounts of sustain when needed. And as soon as I dial back the volume knob it becomes crystal clear, with ample mids and highs, but shy on bass. I was able to hold a note for about 16 seconds on the 12th fret D string. I feel there is so much more variety in the sound of an SG loaded with P90s as opposed to a Les Paul or even an SG loaded with 490r/498t.

I use absolutely no effects, no pedals, nothing. I strictly plug in my guitar and let the amp and pickups do all the work. And obviously a varied pick attack.

In the end, I am led to believe that an SG/P90s is a much versatile guitar than a Les Paul/490r/498t. Hence I'm almost always reaching out for my SG ...
 

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you won't get any arguments from me here. I have owned a number of guitars with P90s and still go to the SG as my favorite. Not just because of the tone which i do love but also because of the weight. An LP is like it is made from lead compared to the SG. I will take my SG over an LP every time and of couse everyone on this forum knows I love two types of pickups... P90s and classic 57 humbuckers.
 

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The only amp I have is the Blackstar HT-1 and hoping to pick up a VOX AC15 in the next few weeks. The HT-1 is excellent for home use. Great clean and crunch sound. I absolutely never use the overdrive channel and control the max gain with the guitar volume knob.

I generally prefer playing my SG (obviously) over my other guitars but lately I've been doing a tonal range comparison between the two. The Les Paul has that full fat sound and decent amount of sustain. Its great for bluesy stuff and the clean sound is bassy. I was able to hold a note for about 7 seconds on the 12th fret D string. I mean there are no ifs and buts about it, the guitar just sounds great and well rounded through the HT-1. After all, its a Les Paul.

Now, as soon as I plug in my SG and drop tune to D, it turns into a ferocious beast. The good old british crunch is so alive and filled with endless amounts of sustain when needed. And as soon as I dial back the volume knob it becomes crystal clear, with ample mids and highs, but shy on bass. I was able to hold a note for about 16 seconds on the 12th fret D string. I feel there is so much more variety in the sound of an SG loaded with P90s as opposed to a Les Paul or even an SG loaded with 490r/498t.

I use absolutely no effects, no pedals, nothing. I strictly plug in my guitar and let the amp and pickups do all the work. And obviously a varied pick attack.

In the end, I am led to believe that an SG/P90s is a much versatile guitar than a Les Paul/490r/498t. Hence I'm almost always reaching out for my SG ...

Yep, you either love or hate the old soapbar pickups. I had a early 70's LP with the mini humbuckers that later I had routed out for full sized humbuckers. Another miskate I made back in the young and dumb years! I also had a 65 SG jr. that had a P90 in it and I loved it!
 

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Speaking of SG junior, is the single P90 more on the rhythm end or treble?

Also, my SG Standard with P90s sounds better than my ex 1960's tribute reissue SG with P90s.
 

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you won't get any arguments from me here. I have owned a number of guitars with P90s and still go to the SG as my favorite. Not just because of the tone which i do love but also because of the weight. An LP is like it is made from lead compared to the SG. I will take my SG over an LP every time and of couse everyone on this forum knows I love two types of pickups... P90s and classic 57 humbuckers.

When I run into some cash savings, I'll switch out my 490r/498Ts for the 57 humbuckers in my Les Paul. In the mean time, I'm focused on saving up for the VOX AC15.
 

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The only amp I have is the Blackstar HT-1 and hoping to pick up a VOX AC15 in the next few weeks. The HT-1 is excellent for home use. Great clean and crunch sound. I absolutely never use the overdrive channel and control the max gain with the guitar volume knob.

I generally prefer playing my SG (obviously) over my other guitars but lately I've been doing a tonal range comparison between the two. The Les Paul has that full fat sound and decent amount of sustain. Its great for bluesy stuff and the clean sound is bassy. I was able to hold a note for about 7 seconds on the 12th fret D string. I mean there are no ifs and buts about it, the guitar just sounds great and well rounded through the HT-1. After all, its a Les Paul.

Now, as soon as I plug in my SG and drop tune to D, it turns into a ferocious beast. The good old british crunch is so alive and filled with endless amounts of sustain when needed. And as soon as I dial back the volume knob it becomes crystal clear, with ample mids and highs, but shy on bass. I was able to hold a note for about 16 seconds on the 12th fret D string. I feel there is so much more variety in the sound of an SG loaded with P90s as opposed to a Les Paul or even an SG loaded with 490r/498t.

I use absolutely no effects, no pedals, nothing. I strictly plug in my guitar and let the amp and pickups do all the work. And obviously a varied pick attack.

In the end, I am led to believe that an SG/P90s is a much versatile guitar than a Les Paul/490r/498t. Hence I'm almost always reaching out for my SG ...

I understand just what you mean. I still love my LP, but since getting the SG P90 Std, it's just such an incredible versatile guitar and so much fun to play, I pretty much never reach for anything else. I'm playing the a Fender HR Deluxe and it's sweet.
 

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I think my sg could of had any of the pickups Gibson use and I would of been happy. And I think the biggest change you will hear is when you get a ac15. I went from a vox ac4 to the 15 and the difference in tone has to be heard to believe, even at very low levels.
 

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I think my sg could of had any of the pickups Gibson use and I would of been happy. And I think the biggest change you will hear is when you get a ac15. I went from a vox ac4 to the 15 and the difference in tone has to be heard to believe, even at very low levels.

Plus the AC15 is a reasonably priced amp. I've tried it at a local guitar store and its wonderful.
 

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I know what you mean, I love my SG with p90's. I've just bought a LTD edition standard with coil taps that gives you the best of both worlds.
 

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Did I mention I love my P-90s. The AC15 is an awesome amp, but I would like to recomend you try the Marshall DSL40C or even the DSL15C. You could be blown away by how your P-90s will sound. they both about the same price range. At the end the choice is your's. You can't go wrong with either.

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This is my work horse, darm P-90s are rock solid. (after market nickel plate P-90 covers)
 


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