New Bands Don't Play Gibsons

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Epiphone is the affordable option and gibson is smart to improve the epiphone quality. You can get the entry level player a very nice sg, lp or bass for $500 or even less.
 

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Ah, PTL, probably, but isn't the Squier line more equivalent to Epiphones? But, of course Squiers are even cheaper than MIMs. I guess you could make the point that until you looked at the back of the headstock, people would still see the Fender logo and be none the wiser. You see a Gibson logo on a headstock and you know it is American made. More than likely most young players haven't developed the headstock snobbery trait that older players do.

Epiphones compete with both Squiers and MIM Fenders. Something like the $199 LP Special Satin competes with Squiers:


While something like a $850 LP '59 Reissue competes with MIM Fenders.

 

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It is completely clear to me why GIBSON's are NOT the choice of up and coming guitar players that are trying to make ends meet and w-w-w-want to sound good doing it....GIBSON's Standards are just too fuckin expen$ive.....frikkin unbelievably expensive actually in comparison to other available Guitars.

A broke as a joke college student in a PUNK Band is not going out tp buy a $2000, even $1500, GIBSON Standard......might nick one if he can.......
 
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Epiphone is the affordable option and gibson is smart to improve the epiphone quality. You can get the entry level player a very nice sg, lp or bass for $500 or even less.
Exactly. I have some pretty high end guitars, but just recently picked up a olive drab worn Casino and it’s a really great guitar…extremely impressed and a whole lot of guitar for the $$.
 

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Exactly. I have some pretty high end guitars, but just recently picked up a olive drab worn Casino and it’s a really great guitar…extremely impressed and a whole lot of guitar for the $$.
May I ask, what year is the Epiphone CASINO ? I've found that the 1960's Epiphone CASINO's to be really completely EXCELLENT Guitars....and always thought the Guitar John Lennon was playing on the Roof in 1969 was a GIBSON ES-335, but its not ! Its the Epiphone CASINO from the 'HELP' LP sessions. the Brown-Sunburst axe.........Lennon loved that Guitar and stripped the paint off so the guitar could 'BREATHE'......and it sounds completely BAD-A$$$ !
 

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Casino and it’s a really great guitar…extremely impressed and a whole lot of guitar for the $$.

Hands down, the Epiphone Casino is the best bang for buck guitar being made right now. Every person who buys one comes across feeling the same way. "I only spent that much on this amazing guitar?" We are left stupefied by the price to quality ratio.

So affordable and so great I actually bought myself two Casinos.

Folks, the Epiphone Casino is the best bang for buck guitar out there. Get yourself one. Get two!

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Epiphone is the affordable option and gibson is smart to improve the epiphone quality. You can get the entry level player a very nice sg, lp or bass for $500 or even less.

Here's the thing, it still says Epiphone on the headstock, while Fender 's budget line can actually say Fender on the headstock. You have the prestige of owning a Fender without paying into the thousands. Gibson doesn't do that.
 

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May I ask, what year is the Epiphone CASINO ? I've found that the 1960's Epiphone CASINO's to be really completely EXCELLENT Guitars....and always thought the Guitar John Lennon was playing on the Roof in 1969 was a GIBSON ES-335, but its not ! Its the Epiphone CASINO from the 'HELP' LP sessions. the Brown-Sunburst axe.........Lennon loved that Guitar and stripped the paint off so the guitar could 'BREATHE'......and it sounds completely BAD-A$$$ !
The new one is from this year, I also have an older one. The older one has some tuning issues, but the new one is just about flawless in all respects. The 330’s and Casino’s were built right next to each in the same factory in the early 60’s, those are identical except for the headstock…equal quality builds. Elliott Smith famously played a 330, would love to get one someday!
 

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Hands down, the Epiphone Casino is the best bang for buck guitar being made right now. Every person who buys one comes across feeling the same way. "I only spent that much on this amazing guitar?" We are left stupefied by the price to quality ratio.

So affordable and so great I actually bought myself two Casinos.

Folks, the Epiphone Casino is the best bang for buck guitar out there. Get yourself one. Get two!

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I have two also, same as yours on the left and the newer olive drab. Love that blonde too! But yes, completely agree…best bang for the buck that I’ve ever encountered, they’d still be a superb buy if they were a few hundred more.
 

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I have two also, same as yours on the left and the newer olive drab.

The worn Casinos are fairly new additions to the Casino line. Being a Beatles fan I only would buy the Burst and the Natural. But being a fan of guitars, I really fell for the Olive Drab and Blue Denim worn Casinos. I could definitely see young players who are not Beatle fanatics buying those worn Casinos. Really cool looking and fantastic guitars.
 

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I am curious, would you pay lets say 500€ for the Gibson guitar if it had Gibson on the headstock and was made in Mexico?
I would
 

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The new one is from this year, I also have an older one. The older one has some tuning issues, but the new one is just about flawless in all respects. The 330’s and Casino’s were built right next to each in the same factory in the early 60’s, those are identical except for the headstock…equal quality builds. Elliott Smith famously played a 330, would love to get one someday!
IDK if GIBSON is even making ES-330's now ? M2M project maybe ? The GIBSON 'MEMPHIS' Factory is no longer in operation for a few years now w/2018 (?) being last guitars to roll out of there......and it looks like the ES Line is pared down mostly to 335/345/355's w/couple other models (Trini Lopez, Chuck Berry sig models mostly) and lots of 'AGED' axe's...but I dont see an ES-330........ and haven't for awhile...I got one of the last ES-335's made at the 'MEMPHIS' Facility w/GIBSON 'Memphis' written on the HS Case...and it is definitely the best sounding guitar I have ever played...and its just a 'RUN OF THE MILL' ES-335 but it has the small Block Fret-Board In-Lays and MHS Pickup's and MNM........ #OLY $#!T SHE SCREEEMS !

If I could find an Epiphone CASINO I could actually play before buying, I'd have one by now......like to A/B a CASINO and the ES-335 I have....that might be interesting !

Question: is the problem w/the Older CASINO the Tuning Machines ? easily replaced if it is......
 

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I am curious, would you pay lets say 500€ for the Gibson guitar if it had Gibson on the headstock and was made in Mexico?
I would
I think Fender made a smart move opening their factory in Mexico and building Fender Stratocasters, Telecasters, and other models down there which have the same Fender name on the head stock and same name on the model, ie Stratocaster, Telecaster, etc, but at a lower price point than the American made Fenders. I own a MIM Fender Stratocaster and for the money its a great guitar and it's a real Fender Strat, not a Squier Strat (not that there's anything wrong with rhem), not a Harley-Benton or Glarry knockoff either plus for people in the US who care about Made in America, they can at least say it was made in (North) America, as opposed to Asia (not that there's anything wrong with Asian guitars, my Gretsch Streamliner was made in Indonesia). Gibson has chosen to keep its plants in the US, although the way they cut costs was moving their factory from Kalamazoo, Michigan, where my 1979 SG was built, to Nashville, Tennessee so as to avoid having unionized labor at their Nashville plant,whereas the K"zoo plant's workers were union members and thus had to be paid at a higher rate. Gibson did buy out Epiphone in the 1950s and now makes cheaper versions of their Gibson models in Asia under the Epiphone label. They could choose to simply start relabelling their Epi models as Made in Asia Gibsons, but as someone whose first guitar was an Epiphone, I appreciate that Gibson has retained a separate identity for Epiphone guitars.
 

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Exactly. I have some pretty high end guitars, but just recently picked up a olive drab worn Casino and it’s a really great guitar…extremely impressed and a whole lot of guitar for the $$.
Looks like Epiphone figured out that the CASINO's are GR8T Guitars...the one posted is USA made Epiphione 'CASINO' and it actually costs more than my GIBSON ES-335 Traditional 'Big Block' did in 2018...here:

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The above 'CASINO' looks like the Guitar Lennon was playing in the movie 'HELP' circa 1965.

The S E Asian (?) Epiphone 'CASINO's are around $800 (?), ALL-IN, but the above model is made in USA, quite pricey for the average Player and, most likely, out-of-reach of most College PUNK ROCK Band members..........BUT, I am sure it is BAD-A$$$$ ERY !

I paid $2900 for a 2018 Brand New GIBSON 'MEMPHIS' ES-335 Traditional Big-Block. IMO, was pretty serious CA$H but now its even more, FFS !...it MIGHT be interesting to see how this new USA model Epiphone CASINO stacks up in comparison...either way, these guitars are most likely NOT TOO HIGH on the list of affordable guitars for the average broke A$$ College Student PUNK ROCK Band member.

While I am at it...the new 2022 GIBSON ES-335 comes in at $3299.00+ TAX...here:
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The 2018 GIBSON advertisement for the GIBSON 'Memphis' line ES-335, here:

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@ $300 MORE THE GIBSON LOGO IS YOURS ! The 2018 GIBSON 'MEMPHIS' ES-335 w/Big Block Center and Li'l Block In-Lays was 'the one' for me.........the 2022 Model w/Dot In-Lays and T-TYPE, not 'T-TOPS', Pickup's........not as much...acrylic Dots .....but they are all NO DOUBT MAJOR-LEAGUE GUITARS.....

AND.... so as NOT to Hi-Jack a thread, I DID NOT SEE A SINGLE ONE OF THESE AT ZE COACHELLA FESTIVAL either, not that I really even looked to closely.........
 

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Looks like Epiphone figured out that the CASINO's are GR8T Guitars...the one posted is USA made Epiphione 'CASINO' and it actually costs more than my GIBSON ES-335 Traditional 'Big Block' did in 2018...here:

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The above 'CASINO' looks like the Guitar Lennon was playing in the movie 'HELP' circa 1965.

The S E Asian (?) Epiphone 'CASINO's are around $800 (?), ALL-IN, but the above model is made in USA, quite pricey for the average Player and, most likely, out-of-reach of most College PUNK ROCK Band members..........BUT, I am sure it is BAD-A$$$$ ERY !

I paid $2900 for a 2018 Brand New GIBSON 'MEMPHIS' ES-335 Traditional Big-Block. IMO, was pretty serious CA$H but now its even more, FFS !...it MIGHT be interesting to see how this new USA model Epiphone CASINO stacks up in comparison...either way, these guitars are most likely NOT TOO HIGH on the list of affordable guitars for the average broke A$$ College Student PUNK ROCK Band member.

While I am at it...the new 2022 GIBSON ES-335 comes in at $3299.00+ TAX...here:
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The 2018 GIBSON advertisement for the GIBSON 'Memphis' line ES-335, here:

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@ $300 MORE THE GIBSON LOGO IS YOURS ! The 2018 GIBSON 'MEMPHIS' ES-335 w/Big Block Center and Li'l Block In-Lays was 'the one' for me.........the 2022 Model w/Dot In-Lays and T-TYPE, not 'T-TOPS', Pickup's........not as much...acrylic Dots .....but they are all NO DOUBT MAJOR-LEAGUE GUITARS.....

AND.... so as NOT to Hi-Jack a thread, I DID NOT SEE A SINGLE ONE OF THESE AT ZE COACHELLA FESTIVAL either, not that I really even looked to closely.........
Yeah, I’d like to try one of the new USA Casinos sometime, but it’s not a guitar I can see myself having that much money tied into…I dig them for sure, but I don’t play the Casinos as much as some of my other guitars. I’m honestly very happy with the couple of cheaper ones I have, they punch well beyond their price points. I also have a 2018 335 Traditional, really great sounding guitar…I paid $2250 for it new, prices have risen on all Gibson Semi Hollows since then unfortunately.

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Yeah, I’d like to try one of the new USA Casinos sometime, but it’s not a guitar I can see myself having that much money tied into…I dig them for sure, but I don’t play the Casinos as much as some of my other guitars. I’m honestly very happy with the couple of cheaper ones I have, they punch well beyond their price points. I also have a 2018 335 Traditional, really great sounding guitar…I paid $2250 for it new, prices have risen on all Gibson Semi Hollows since then unfortunately.

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WOW, $2250 for a NEW 2018 ES335 Traditional ? **** ME...I paid $2900, brand new in July 2018 !Mine has a 2017 Serial # and was stamped last day of October, 2017.....one of the earlier 2018 Models, and one of the last to roll out of the MEMPHIS Facility...IIRC it was right before GIBSON closed that plant.
I got the Antique Cherry one......the one above has same Small Block In-Lays, tht was one of the main reasons I bought it....Dots on a $3000 Guitar just dont do it for me.........3G's and I aint settlin for DOTS.
'LOR-REDDA'' is definitely the best sounding guitar I ever played....Incomparable is the word, just a leap better than anything else I've played...I even played it next to a 1960 ES-335 and it blew the strings off the old boy

IDK why the writing came out all crooked in this post but this website doesnt do me any favours.....I'm lucky if I can post a picture from time to time, usually cant....

BTW, did the HS Case say 'MEMPHIS' on it ?
 
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