NGD! 2020 SG Special

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I've wanted one of these guitars since shortly after I sold my early 60s SG Special several decades ago. Along the way, I've acquired other Gibsons that were close -- some more than others -- but they just never were the same thing. In about 2000, I bought an SG Showcase Edition -- a very nice, limited edition model with active EMGs. Sounds killer, but it just wasn't the same. Then maybe a year later, I got closer and bought a double-cut Les Paul Special -- with P90s -- and that was much closer. But still, it wasn't an SG. Just about as close as you can get to one without it being an SG, though. And most recently, in 2018, I bought a Les Paul BFG with P90s. Again, about as close as you can get, although it doesn't quite have the upper reach ease that the SG has, and its neck is a touch thicker.

And then I start seeing these SG Specials -- new ones -- that look pretty much identical to the one I used to own. Right down to the Klusons with the white knobs and the compensated wraparound bridge. I kept telling myself, I've got two Les Pauls with P90s, and that should be enough, but it kept eating at me. Finally, I couldn't stand it any longer. I'd saved up enough where I could afford it, and I decided that I'm not getting any younger and I'd better get one while I can still enjoy the experience of playing it. What sealed the deal was a really good deal I ran across at Reverb, and when I saw it, I was lost -- or rather, a major chunk of my savings was lost. Hehe.

Anyway, here it is:
SG Special Front1a.jpg SG Special Back 1a.jpg SG Special Bling 1a.jpg

So here's the deal. This is a 2020 build. But it is brand spanking new. Still has the peel-away plastic on the pickguard -- and there's no wear on the plastic. No marks or scratches anywhere. The case is equally unmarked. So, I'm guessing it's NOS. But that seems strange to me -- a guitar like this is pretty popular. Seems like it would have sold -- unless maybe all the covid crap may have rained pretty hard on a certain music store's parade or something. All I can think of.

The third pic shows the bling that came with the guitar. A leather strap, a cleaning cloth, a manual, a hangtag, a case key, a cool little multi-tool, and coolest of all, a -- what do you guys call it? A birth photo or something? It's a shot of the guitar sitting on the workbench of the tech who did the final setup.

You know what I was really hoping to find with this SG? A guitar that has had a couple of years of honest wear -- you know, minor nicks and dings here and there. Some pick fogging on the pickguard. Maybe a bit of corrosion on the pickup screws. But what do I get? None of that. I get a guitar that is perfect, and now I get to agonize over that first ding or nick or evidence of wear. That's probably the one thing I hate about owning a new guitar. I will feel so relieved once I finally put that first nick or ding on the guitar. Not that I plan to do any such thing, of course. And so the angst continues.
 

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I've wanted one of these guitars since shortly after I sold my early 60s SG Special several decades ago. Along the way, I've acquired other Gibsons that were close -- some more than others -- but they just never were the same thing. In about 2000, I bought an SG Showcase Edition -- a very nice, limited edition model with active EMGs. Sounds killer, but it just wasn't the same. Then maybe a year later, I got closer and bought a double-cut Les Paul Special -- with P90s -- and that was much closer. But still, it wasn't an SG. Just about as close as you can get to one without it being an SG, though. And most recently, in 2018, I bought a Les Paul BFG with P90s. Again, about as close as you can get, although it doesn't quite have the upper reach ease that the SG has, and its neck is a touch thicker.

And then I start seeing these SG Specials -- new ones -- that look pretty much identical to the one I used to own. Right down to the Klusons with the white knobs and the compensated wraparound bridge. I kept telling myself, I've got two Les Pauls with P90s, and that should be enough, but it kept eating at me. Finally, I couldn't stand it any longer. I'd saved up enough where I could afford it, and I decided that I'm not getting any younger and I'd better get one while I can still enjoy the experience of playing it. What sealed the deal was a really good deal I ran across at Reverb, and when I saw it, I was lost -- or rather, a major chunk of my savings was lost. Hehe.

Anyway, here it is:
View attachment 48116 View attachment 48117 View attachment 48118

So here's the deal. This is a 2020 build. But it is brand spanking new. Still has the peel-away plastic on the pickguard -- and there's no wear on the plastic. No marks or scratches anywhere. The case is equally unmarked. So, I'm guessing it's NOS. But that seems strange to me -- a guitar like this is pretty popular. Seems like it would have sold -- unless maybe all the covid crap may have rained pretty hard on a certain music store's parade or something. All I can think of.

The third pic shows the bling that came with the guitar. A leather strap, a cleaning cloth, a manual, a hangtag, a case key, a cool little multi-tool, and coolest of all, a -- what do you guys call it? A birth photo or something? It's a shot of the guitar sitting on the workbench of the tech who did the final setup.

You know what I was really hoping to find with this SG? A guitar that has had a couple of years of honest wear -- you know, minor nicks and dings here and there. Some pick fogging on the pickguard. Maybe a bit of corrosion on the pickup screws. But what do I get? None of that. I get a guitar that is perfect, and now I get to agonize over that first ding or nick or evidence of wear. That's probably the one thing I hate about owning a new guitar. I will feel so relieved once I finally put that first nick or ding on the guitar. Not that I plan to do any such thing, of course. And so the angst continues.
Sharp SG, I agree that 1st ding/scratch/chip/whatever is always bordering on TRAUMATIC......it is the exact reason I will not spend over $4K on a guitar, and usually not over $2K..I ain't a Rich Guy....and.....I know what I am eventually going to do to it........and....... that it is only a matter of time before I do....
 

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You got an excellent instrument... don't fuss.
Enjoy what you got, so many other players get so bunged up, they come aboard here and complain that they thought they were getting a pristine guitar but there's a FLAW on it...OMG! WTF, Gibson!
You can always buy somebody else's problems at your local pawn shop.
>Best to put your own tone notches on the guitar by playing it a lot.
drink beer while playing it. you'll bump into things. (or at least I do) Jam with some other players who like to jump around a lot. Or a chick singer who does a mean tambourine fling.
>Just get it set up by the best luthier you can find/afford, and then play the hell out of it. In the case of an SG special, that's not possible.
There's always some Hell left in it.
 

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Hey Col Mustard, that's pretty much the way I feel. I don't do much in the way of live performances anymore, so I may put off that first ding for a while, but sooner or later it'll happen. My guitars tend to spend a lot of time outside their cases if I'm using them frequently, and I usually have more than one guitar out at a time -- I even sort of stack them within close proximity to each other. So it'll happen sooner or later. This guitar will be mostly used for recording and the occasional open mic nite type of deal, so hopefully not too much on-stage abuse.

I build guitars, so I consider myself to be a pretty good luthier. The setup on this guitar was easy, though. I didn't have to touch a thing. The pickup heights are correct. The fingerboard has just the right amount of relief and the frets are perfectly level. The string height at the nut is where it should be. The action is exactly where I like it, and with that wrap-around bridge, I don't have to worry about intonating it. So, life is very easy with this cool guitar.
 

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Dude, that’s a 2022. It just left the factory a few months ago. Congrats!
 

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I bought mine just before 3 weeks and it's a 2019. Sealed in her box waiting for me almost 3 years in absolute stunning condition. Have fun
 

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I've wanted one of these guitars since shortly after I sold my early 60s SG Special several decades ago. Along the way, I've acquired other Gibsons that were close -- some more than others -- but they just never were the same thing. In about 2000, I bought an SG Showcase Edition -- a very nice, limited edition model with active EMGs. Sounds killer, but it just wasn't the same. Then maybe a year later, I got closer and bought a double-cut Les Paul Special -- with P90s -- and that was much closer. But still, it wasn't an SG. Just about as close as you can get to one without it being an SG, though. And most recently, in 2018, I bought a Les Paul BFG with P90s. Again, about as close as you can get, although it doesn't quite have the upper reach ease that the SG has, and its neck is a touch thicker.

And then I start seeing these SG Specials -- new ones -- that look pretty much identical to the one I used to own. Right down to the Klusons with the white knobs and the compensated wraparound bridge. I kept telling myself, I've got two Les Pauls with P90s, and that should be enough, but it kept eating at me. Finally, I couldn't stand it any longer. I'd saved up enough where I could afford it, and I decided that I'm not getting any younger and I'd better get one while I can still enjoy the experience of playing it. What sealed the deal was a really good deal I ran across at Reverb, and when I saw it, I was lost -- or rather, a major chunk of my savings was lost. Hehe.

Anyway, here it is:
View attachment 48116 View attachment 48117 View attachment 48118

So here's the deal. This is a 2020 build. But it is brand spanking new. Still has the peel-away plastic on the pickguard -- and there's no wear on the plastic. No marks or scratches anywhere. The case is equally unmarked. So, I'm guessing it's NOS. But that seems strange to me -- a guitar like this is pretty popular. Seems like it would have sold -- unless maybe all the covid crap may have rained pretty hard on a certain music store's parade or something. All I can think of.

The third pic shows the bling that came with the guitar. A leather strap, a cleaning cloth, a manual, a hangtag, a case key, a cool little multi-tool, and coolest of all, a -- what do you guys call it? A birth photo or something? It's a shot of the guitar sitting on the workbench of the tech who did the final setup.

You know what I was really hoping to find with this SG? A guitar that has had a couple of years of honest wear -- you know, minor nicks and dings here and there. Some pick fogging on the pickguard. Maybe a bit of corrosion on the pickup screws. But what do I get? None of that. I get a guitar that is perfect, and now I get to agonize over that first ding or nick or evidence of wear. That's probably the one thing I hate about owning a new guitar. I will feel so relieved once I finally put that first nick or ding on the guitar. Not that I plan to do any such thing, of course. And so the angst continues.
BTW BRO,I wish GIBSON USA would send me ONE perfect guitar in my lifre-time.coz WOWO it aint happned yet.........You got one anfII can only wish..... having a binding on the neck of a fret-board with DOTS is almost a rarity..even without playing it...i LIKES IT....! GIBSON STOPPED DOIN THAT ON SG' Specials in, IDK really, but Iommi's SG had one, 1967 ?
CONGRATULATOINS !
 
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How is the neck profile? Is it a D shape like the 61 Standard, or more of a C with less shoulder? I'm still on the fence about that very guitar, and there are none in stock anywhere around here to try out.
 

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... My guitars tend to spend a lot of time outside their cases if I'm using them frequently, and I usually have more than one guitar out at a time -- I even sort of stack them within close proximity to each other. So it'll happen sooner or later...
I don't case any of my guitars. I look at them as art as much as anything. With that, I use a very high quality security stand for all of them, a Hercules GS405B. No chance I can knock one over unless I take out the stand. But even then, they can suffer damage from handling. We are human, after all. I try to move slowly and carefully. They still get bumped on occasion, but luckily, not a hard bump and not against anything sharp.
 

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How is the neck profile? Is it a D shape like the 61 Standard, or more of a C with less shoulder? I'm still on the fence about that very guitar, and there are none in stock anywhere around here to try out.
I've never paid much attention to C or D profiles -- I just know I like the Slim-60s profile, like my original SG Special had and my LP Special has. But now that I have had some time to spend with this new Special, at first I wondered if it might have Gibson's asymmetrical profile, which has a top shoulder like the "D" but a bottom shoulder like the "C", but apparently it doesn't. So, I'd have to say that it does seem to have more of a D contour, if you will, although it also has the Slim profile that I prefer. I can't say at this point that I'm a fan of the shoulders this neck's profile has -- but it's more of a visual thing. When I look down at the neck, I'm not used to seeing that upper shoulder. It doesn't restrict movement or anything -- it's just a matter of perception.

I've never played on a 61 Standard, so I'm not familiar with its neck profile -- I've just always assumed it was the same as the Special's. I just dug out two guitars -- my 88 SG Showcase Edition (the one that I used for my avatar) and my LP Special. This has got me asking questions now, so I'm curious about profiles. Both my 88 SG Showcase and my 97 LP Special have the Slim-60s profile, but they also have the C contour, not the D contour. It's been decades since I played my old Special, but If I had to guess, I'd say that the original SG Special's profile/contour is closer to that found on these guitars than it is to the profile/contour found on my new Special.

Hope this helps.
 
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I've wanted one of these guitars since shortly after I sold my early 60s SG Special several decades ago. Along the way, I've acquired other Gibsons that were close -- some more than others -- but they just never were the same thing. In about 2000, I bought an SG Showcase Edition -- a very nice, limited edition model with active EMGs. Sounds killer, but it just wasn't the same. Then maybe a year later, I got closer and bought a double-cut Les Paul Special -- with P90s -- and that was much closer. But still, it wasn't an SG. Just about as close as you can get to one without it being an SG, though. And most recently, in 2018, I bought a Les Paul BFG with P90s. Again, about as close as you can get, although it doesn't quite have the upper reach ease that the SG has, and its neck is a touch thicker.

And then I start seeing these SG Specials -- new ones -- that look pretty much identical to the one I used to own. Right down to the Klusons with the white knobs and the compensated wraparound bridge. I kept telling myself, I've got two Les Pauls with P90s, and that should be enough, but it kept eating at me. Finally, I couldn't stand it any longer. I'd saved up enough where I could afford it, and I decided that I'm not getting any younger and I'd better get one while I can still enjoy the experience of playing it. What sealed the deal was a really good deal I ran across at Reverb, and when I saw it, I was lost -- or rather, a major chunk of my savings was lost. Hehe.

Anyway, here it is:
View attachment 48116 View attachment 48117 View attachment 48118

So here's the deal. This is a 2020 build. But it is brand spanking new. Still has the peel-away plastic on the pickguard -- and there's no wear on the plastic. No marks or scratches anywhere. The case is equally unmarked. So, I'm guessing it's NOS. But that seems strange to me -- a guitar like this is pretty popular. Seems like it would have sold -- unless maybe all the covid crap may have rained pretty hard on a certain music store's parade or something. All I can think of.

The third pic shows the bling that came with the guitar. A leather strap, a cleaning cloth, a manual, a hangtag, a case key, a cool little multi-tool, and coolest of all, a -- what do you guys call it? A birth photo or something? It's a shot of the guitar sitting on the workbench of the tech who did the final setup.

You know what I was really hoping to find with this SG? A guitar that has had a couple of years of honest wear -- you know, minor nicks and dings here and there. Some pick fogging on the pickguard. Maybe a bit of corrosion on the pickup screws. But what do I get? None of that. I get a guitar that is perfect, and now I get to agonize over that first ding or nick or evidence of wear. That's probably the one thing I hate about owning a new guitar. I will feel so relieved once I finally put that first nick or ding on the guitar. Not that I plan to do any such thing, of course. And so the angst continues.
HNGD
 

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Dude, that’s a 2022. It just left the factory a few months ago. Congrats!

I'm a bit late getting back to this, but yep, you're absolutely right. This is, indeed a 2022. Confusion comes from Gibson's change in S/N format in 2019, I think it was. So, anyway, this really amounted to a killer deal. The seller thought it was a 2020 and priced it as such, so I saved a pretty good chunk of change on this deal.

Oh, and now that I've owned it for a month, I'd like to say some of the newness has worn off . . . but it hasn't. It's still a thrill.
 

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I'm a bit late getting back to this, but yep, you're absolutely right. This is, indeed a 2022. Confusion comes from Gibson's change in S/N format in 2019, I think it was. So, anyway, this really amounted to a killer deal. The seller thought it was a 2020 and priced it as such, so I saved a pretty good chunk of change on this deal.

Oh, and now that I've owned it for a month, I'd like to say some of the newness has worn off . . . but it hasn't. It's still a thrill.
I hear ya. Good deal!
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