Thoughts on this old one...

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What are your lots' opinion on this one?

It's from CME so I have good reason to believe it is what they say it is..

Lot of mods, great for a player. It's sold now, but what do you think about the price?


Gibson SG Standard Black 1965
 

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Here's the description from Reverb:
 

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What are your lots' opinion on this one?

It's from CME so I have good reason to believe it is what they say it is..

Lot of mods, great for a player. It's sold now, but what do you think about the price?


Gibson SG Standard Black 1965

I was watching that one. Price was good, but it could tell some stories for sure. I think it was priced right, and hopefully the next owner will be happy with it. Pretty exciting to see a 1965 SG in any condition, let alone an affordable price.

I don't keep a keen eye on the Vintage market, but occasionally I stumble across one like I did this one. If it played descent it would be a nice addition to my collection, but it is pretty hard to justify. For the price that this 65 fetched, one could buy a really nice nice guitar. Like Custom shop nice. That would be an exponential better player; like apples to oranges.

The more time that goes on the more I accept that I will likely never have a true vintage era guitar. My guitars will get old as time goes on, heck my 61 RI is already 20 years old. Had it since new, and it will continue to age beautifully. But no matter how old it gets, it will never be a "Vintage era" guitar. There is a big difference there, vintage vs vintage era. I always consider the Gibson SG vintage era to be 1961 to 1970. I know Norlin took over in late 1969, but in early 1970 they were still assembling and selling the 1969 Gibson design. Necks and bodies were already made, so there is a slight grace period there.

The fact that vintage instruments usually come with a host of issues (potentially) and always come with a massive price tag, my money can get me better instruments, just without the prestige of a vintage instrument. I would sure love to scoop one up one day though. I do keep looking...
 
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I don't know. That's one ugly headstock repair, and I doubt I'd get along with the reshaped neck. Super thin! :facepalm:

Also, other than the wood, nothing else seems to be from 1965. Why not just get a reissue? Probably much better off...

Exactly, I find this ridiculous. I mean what exactly are you paying for? Some old wood? There's noting wrong with a headstock repair but in this case I feel the price should reflect that. This one's more than a brand new one. Why?
 

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The more time that goes on the more I accept that I will likely never have a true vintage era guitar. My guitars will get old as time goes on, heck my 61 RI is already 20 years old. Had it since new, and it will continue to age beautifully. But no matter how old it gets, it will never be a "Vintage era" guitar. There is a big difference there, vintage vs vintage era. I always consider the Gibson SG vintage era to be 1961 to 1970. I know Norlin took over in late 1969, but in early 1970 they were still assembling and selling the 1969 Gibson design. Necks and bodies were already made, so there is a slight grace period there.

The fact that vintage instruments usually come with a host of issues (potentially) and always come with a massive price tag, my money can get me better instruments, just without the prestige of a vintage instrument. I would sure love to scoop one up one day though. I do keep looking...

The "vintage era" is highly overrated. There were some excellent guitars made back then, but there is no magic that doesn't exist in a well-made new guitar.

And funny enough, many of the changes derided as "Norlin cost cutting" were made under CMI leadership; reduced headstock angle, shallower beveling of body and pickguard edges, chrome hardware, swimming pool routing, laminated necks and the volute. I'd also wager that the changes for 1970 were planned the year before (so that adds the fiberboard HS veneer and MIA stamp) and the real Norlin changes were the radical redesigns of late 1971, with the front-mounted controls. Once the Deluxe was gone and the Standard returned in 1973, you basically had the same specs as CMI left off with. In fact, going back to the small pickguard made them marginally more time-intensive to assemble than the Batwings CMI left off with. The batwing was a cost-cutting measure, after all. One that I happen to love the look of, anyway.
 


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